rebecca ([info]splinterjete) wrote,
@ 2008-08-10 12:35:00
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condo owners waging war on trans women sex pros
it appears that yuppie condo dwellers in downtown toronto are waging war against working women who have long called their neighbourhood home. euphemistic groups call for euphemistic meetings: as per their craigslist ad below, weekly 'meetings' - ostensibly a euphemism for transphobic vigilante mob - will be wandering through the streets loaded with flashlights and their unchecked cis, class, (and likely racial) privilege.

there have been no incidents, no safety concerns, nothing that could ever justify this as anything but a moralistic crusade against sex workers, particularly trans women sex workers. the only people who have been killed in the neighbourhood as a direct result of 'prostitution' (sic) have been sex workers themselves, most notably the triple murder of three sex workers (two trans and one cis) on homewood avenue in 1997.

these (presumably cis) condo dwellers, armed with their granite counter and bank-supported real estate are taking on a harshly marginilized group of people and only further entrenching the social exclusion they experience. through their actions, these cis men and women are clearly putting it out there that trans women are certainly less deserving of a safe and stable place to live and work.

here's the aforementioned ad....
The Homewood-Maitland Safety Association is meeting on the corner of Maitland Place and Homewood Avenue - near Wellesley and Jarvis intersections - every Fridays and Saturdays at 11 PM to fight prostitution and crime in our neighbourhood. We are asking every concerned and/or victims of crimes and prostitution to join us for a meeting and an evening of community action to fight this plague that is Prostitution in this neighbourhood. JOIN US !!! Come Friday evening at 11 PM - Bring a Flashlight! Thank you for helping your community! HomewoodMaitlandSafety@gmail.com

this friday there will be a significant number of activists and allies making certain we join this meeting. please consider coming as well.



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[info]tinamou
2008-08-10 06:04 pm UTC (link)
Ugh. Atlanta, Ga is having a similar gentrification dust-up, with the added complication that the gentrifiers are largely gay white men asking GLBT organizations and the cops to crack down on trans women of color. Luckily, a bunch of the GLBT groups balked. The cops didn't, though, and have been more than willing to do the vigilante-ing themselves, so the neighborhood association can keep it's meetings to daylight hours.

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Homewood Maitland Association member response
(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 03:06 am UTC (link)
This is so funny , The Homewood Maitland Safety association is almost 100 % made up of Gays !!! How do I know ?
I am one one the initiator of this movement against the Hookers infestation.
..

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Re: Homewood Maitland Association member response - [info]hardrockgrrl, 2008-08-11 03:23 am UTC
Re: Homewood Maitland Association member response - (Anonymous), 2008-08-11 03:32 am UTC
Re: Homewood Maitland Association member response - [info]wakingdreaming, 2008-08-11 11:55 pm UTC
Re: Homewood Maitland Association member response - [info]imthelonely_one, 2008-08-15 08:03 pm UTC
Re: Homewood Maitland Association member response - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 04:22 am UTC
Re: Homewood Maitland Association member response - (Anonymous), 2008-08-16 07:49 pm UTC
Re: Homewood Maitland Association member response - (Anonymous), 2008-08-16 07:52 pm UTC
Re: Homewood Maitland Association member response - (Anonymous), 2008-08-17 04:36 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 03:24 am UTC (link)
Notice to johns of Homewood and Maitland

Johns who circulate the block around Homewood Avenue and Maitland Place in downtown Toronto: Please be informed that your vehicles and car license plates are being monitored, recorded and reported to the police. Also, be advised that the Homewood Maitland Safety Association will be running a list of car license plates on its website www.homewoodmaitland.com

The neighbourhood and residents will no longer tolerate your presence here. We suggest you move your business elsewhere! You and your personal and family reputation are here at you own risk! Be advised.!

The Homewood Maitland Safety Association (john monitoring division)

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[info]hardrockgrrl
2008-08-10 06:30 pm UTC (link)
"victims of ... prostitution" ??? Give me a break...good for you guys for infiltrating this 'meeting'.

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(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 02:53 am UTC (link)
Fuck you CUNT !
Do you own a mirror ???

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(no subject) - [info]hardrockgrrl, 2008-08-11 03:25 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-11 03:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 04:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 04:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hardrockgrrl, 2008-08-11 04:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 04:43 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-12 12:14 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-12 12:16 am UTC
this is hate - (Anonymous), 2008-08-13 11:51 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-15 08:19 pm UTC
Stupid fucking traps! - (Anonymous), 2008-08-16 05:01 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 03:25 am UTC (link)
Notice to johns of Homewood and Maitland

Johns who circulate the block around Homewood Avenue and Maitland Place in downtown Toronto: Please be informed that your vehicles and car license plates are being monitored, recorded and reported to the police. Also, be advised that the Homewood Maitland Safety Association will be running a list of car license plates on its website www.homewoodmaitland.com

The neighbourhood and residents will no longer tolerate your presence here. We suggest you move your business elsewhere! You and your personal and family reputation are here at you own risk! Be advised.!

The Homewood Maitland Safety Association (john monitoring division)

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[info]drowninginwords
2008-08-10 07:36 pm UTC (link)
I find the idea of condo owners being 'victims of prostitution' interesting.

By which I mean confusing and ridiculous.

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(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 02:58 am UTC (link)
Do you live here on Homewood Maitland bitch ??
Mind your own business and take care of your stinky cunt , you will do us a favor !!!

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(no subject) - [info]jlina, 2008-08-11 03:33 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-11 03:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlina, 2008-08-11 03:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 04:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlina, 2008-08-12 04:52 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 03:25 am UTC (link)
Notice to johns of Homewood and Maitland

Johns who circulate the block around Homewood Avenue and Maitland Place in downtown Toronto: Please be informed that your vehicles and car license plates are being monitored, recorded and reported to the police. Also, be advised that the Homewood Maitland Safety Association will be running a list of car license plates on its website www.homewoodmaitland.com

The neighbourhood and residents will no longer tolerate your presence here. We suggest you move your business elsewhere! You and your personal and family reputation are here at you own risk! Be advised.!

The Homewood Maitland Safety Association (john monitoring division)

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'john monitoring division' - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 04:14 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-15 08:11 pm UTC
Giving our neighbourhood the clean up it deserves !!!
(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 03:29 am UTC (link)
Notice to johns of Homewood and Maitland

Johns who circulate the block around Homewood Avenue and Maitland Place in downtown Toronto: Please be informed that your vehicles and car license plates are being monitored, recorded and reported to the police. Also, be advised that the Homewood Maitland Safety Association will be running a list of car license plates on its website www.homewoodmaitland.com

The neighbourhood and residents will no longer tolerate your presence here. We suggest you move your business elsewhere! You and your personal and family reputation are here at you own risk! Be advised.!

The Homewood Maitland Safety Association (john monitoring division)

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Re: Giving our neighbourhood the clean up it deserves !!! - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 04:13 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2008-08-10 07:51 pm UTC (link)
"there have been no incidents, no safety concerns, nothing that could ever justify this as anything but a moralistic crusade against sex workers, particularly trans women sex workers..."

Clearly you do not live on the street. "Incidents" occur virtually every day.

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[info]jlina
2008-08-10 09:34 pm UTC (link)
define your terms! Having to lean on scare quotes tends to automatically weaken one's argument by lessening the terms which are invariably central to the debate. And it's made worse when scare quotes are used around a word lacking specific definition in the first place.

I mean, what constitutes an incident to you? Seeing someone you assume is engaged in prostitution? Or are we talking violent brawl? An incident could be anything. Twice a day I have an incident with a tooth brush. So, if you have information here from living on the street, persuasive examples of conduct unbecoming to a civilized society, don't hide it under weasel words and scare quotes.

If you don't, though... well, don't think a lack of specificity will hide the vacuity of your argument.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-11 03:30 am UTC

[info]jessie_c
2008-08-10 08:28 pm UTC (link)
Awwwwwwwww poor widdle NIMBYs.

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(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 03:27 am UTC (link)
Notice to johns of Homewood and Maitland

Johns who circulate the block around Homewood Avenue and Maitland Place in downtown Toronto: Please be informed that your vehicles and car license plates are being monitored, recorded and reported to the police. Also, be advised that the Homewood Maitland Safety Association will be running a list of car license plates on its website www.homewoodmaitland.com

The neighbourhood and residents will no longer tolerate your presence here. We suggest you move your business elsewhere! You and your personal and family reputation are here at you own risk! Be advised.!

The Homewood Maitland Safety Association (john monitoring division)

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(no subject) - [info]jessie_c, 2008-08-11 12:15 pm UTC
Great post...
[info]nefaeriaofetsy.blogspot.com
2008-08-11 01:29 am UTC (link)
Sean Keegan was a friend of mine, which was one of the sex workers you had mentioned who were murdered in 1996 (I am assuming you are referring to the Victoria day murders, where 3 sex workers were slaughtered by the piece of shit Marcello Palma).

Sean and the other sex workers were killed because Palma had the exact same sentiments that these NIMBYs do. Cassandra Do was also murdered not too far away (she was an indoor girl).

This cannot be said too many times:

NIMBYs are the blight on society, NOT sex workers.

Slàinte!

Laurel


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Re: Great post...
(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 02:56 am UTC (link)
The sex workers choose their "job", their lives and the risks attached to that lifestyle...
Flipping burgers at McDonald is not like getting $ 50 to blow some gross fat asshole, but it is a lot safer !!!!

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Re: Great post... - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 04:20 am UTC
Re: Great post... - [info]nefaeriaofetsy.blogspot.com, 2008-08-11 04:52 am UTC
cannot read this madness in your comments now - [info]default_diva, 2008-08-11 04:54 am UTC
Re: cannot read this madness in your comments now - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 05:14 am UTC
Re: Great post... - (Anonymous), 2008-08-13 12:29 am UTC
The future os scum hunting
(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 03:26 am UTC (link)
Notice to johns of Homewood and Maitland

Johns who circulate the block around Homewood Avenue and Maitland Place in downtown Toronto: Please be informed that your vehicles and car license plates are being monitored, recorded and reported to the police. Also, be advised that the Homewood Maitland Safety Association will be running a list of car license plates on its website www.homewoodmaitland.com

The neighbourhood and residents will no longer tolerate your presence here. We suggest you move your business elsewhere! You and your personal and family reputation are here at you own risk! Be advised.!

The Homewood Maitland Safety Association (john monitoring division)

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Re: The future os scum hunting - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 04:29 am UTC
Re: The future os scum hunting - [info]punkarze, 2008-08-11 09:50 am UTC
Re: The future os scum hunting - [info]no_trade_marque, 2008-08-12 04:39 am UTC
Re: The future os scum hunting - [info]darkdragondm, 2008-08-12 05:31 am UTC
Re: Great post...
[info]splinterjete
2008-08-11 04:08 am UTC (link)
hey laurel, i knew junior as well. i actually wrote a blog entry a couple of years ago about them - http://splinterjete.livejournal.com/32633.html - i'd be interested to know what you think of it. thanks for the compliments too. Totally agree with you. If women are forced even more so to be working in isolation and farther away from one another (and from communities) then it's only going to mean more dead bodies. This is a life and death struggle.

~becca

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Re: Great post... - (Anonymous), 2008-08-12 01:06 am UTC
Re: Great post...
(Anonymous)
2008-08-20 06:21 am UTC (link)
You make your bed, you lie in it. Choose to be a sex worker, or a "John" and you will get what you've got coming. Change your morals, and perhaps you'll live a conscious life and awaken to what you true purpose is other than suck dick, and get laid for money or kicks.

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Gotta love trolls
[info]nefaeriaofetsy.blogspot.com
2008-08-11 03:55 am UTC (link)
Hey NIMBY douche, you're really fucking bright aren't ya? Thanks for the ammo (you know calling women cunts and all that lovely shit).

Methinks your organization is going to have plenty of proverbial arse kissing to do. You are never truly anonymous on the internet….let the back-peddling begin!!! :D

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Re: Gotta love trolls
(Anonymous)
2008-08-11 05:21 am UTC (link)
Hey Rebecca, thanks so much for helping me out, I am so sorry that you are being abused like this. I've alerted the SVU about our attendance and they've assured our safety. This fuckers aren't just homeowners their nazi's. I've already met 5 trans women who have been abused by these people and the worst thing is that they were all youths (under 25). I'm so glad your joining me and I'm so glad we're taking back our streets.

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Re: Gotta love trolls - [info]splinterjete, 2008-08-11 05:25 am UTC
Re: Gotta love trolls - (Anonymous), 2008-08-11 05:28 am UTC
Re: Gotta love trolls - (Anonymous), 2008-08-12 01:09 am UTC
Yuppies /> everyone else. Sex Trade Workers /< everyone else.
[info]darkdragondm
2008-08-11 12:40 pm UTC (link)
Wow.

Motherfucking wow.

I'll try and be there Becs. I might have work up to that time, but if I don't I'm there.

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Re: Yuppies /> everyone else. Sex Trade Workers /< everyone else.
[info]darkdragondm
2008-08-11 12:41 pm UTC (link)
Anything we should bring?

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Re: Yuppies /> everyone else. Sex Trade Workers /< everyone else. - (Anonymous), 2008-08-12 01:00 am UTC
Re: Yuppies /> everyone else. Sex Trade Workers /< everyone else. - [info]darkdragondm, 2008-08-12 04:21 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2008-08-12 12:48 am UTC (link)
"Awwwwwwwww poor widdle NIMBYs."

Y'know... I'm hearing a whole lot of YIYBYs (Yes in YOUR backyard) speaking their mind here but not a whole lot of actual discourse into the problems that accompany street prostitution. I worked very hard and I put my entire life savings into my house. Perhaps property values are an abstract term to you folks but for me, the value of my property is directly related to how and where I'll be spending my old age.

I gather from the overall tone of these postings that home ownership is something many of you have yet to experience. I suspect that most of you would feel a whole lot less smug if it was your life savings that hung in the balance.

For many of you, it would appear that anyone who owns more than a 2nd hand TV and a crappy Ikea couch is a capitalist roader and a running dog.

I also gather that none of you actually live on Homewood. For you, this entire discussion is an abstraction. I do live here. With all due respect to your painfully earnest selves you have not walked a mile in my shoes.

Laurel, your friend Wendy is spreading a multitude of falsehoods and you and your cadre of Feminist Young Pioneers are happily eating it up without the slightest regard for objective fact.

Perhaps someone can explain to me why I would want prostitution into my neighbourhood. Show me how it is MEASURABLY a social good. In what way does it improve my life? And when you've done that, please do explain to me why you think that you folks, who do not live here, have such a sense of entitlement to speak on matters where you have no direct experience. Why, exactly do you feel entitled to tell me who should or should not be in my backyard? Tend to your own gardens.

If I were to offer an opinion on lesbianism you'd collectively howl for my man-blood and yet you seem to be very free in telling me how I'm a moral degenerate and tranny hater. How long will it take before one of you compares me to Hitler?



Michael R
Resident





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[info]darkdragondm
2008-08-12 04:18 am UTC (link)
I find that your immediate arguement of property values to be flawed. You moved onto Homewood on your own volition, knowing the risks. The fact that you put it as your first arguement is a sad fact of life. When you present arguements like that, you really do appear to be a capitalist (and somewhat classist) bastard.

Yes, you are right, I don't live on Homewood. I've lived at Queen and Broadview for five years now, and it has its share of drugs and sex. Living between two flop-houses and a strip club does bring that elements to a neighbourhood. I knew this was the environment when I was moving here, I didn't mind. If I did, I wouldn't have moved here.

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property values - (Anonymous), 2008-08-16 07:54 pm UTC
the classic argument - (Anonymous), 2008-08-18 01:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlina, 2008-08-12 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-12 06:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkdragondm, 2008-08-12 08:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-12 11:51 pm UTC
Get your condo off of our street corner! - [info]helter_shelter, 2008-08-13 12:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlina, 2008-08-13 01:13 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-13 12:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlina, 2008-08-13 01:06 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-13 12:34 am UTC
What.... ever! - [info]helter_shelter, 2008-08-13 12:43 am UTC
Re: What.... ever! - [info]helter_shelter, 2008-08-13 12:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlina, 2008-08-13 01:09 am UTC
Absolutely! - [info]helter_shelter, 2008-08-13 01:13 am UTC
Just A Thought and Comment - (Anonymous), 2008-08-13 02:33 am UTC
um....ya - (Anonymous), 2008-08-14 05:43 am UTC
*snort* - (Anonymous), 2008-08-14 10:47 pm UTC
News story
[info]sonjaaa
2008-08-13 09:13 pm UTC (link)
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2008/08/13/tto-prostitution.html

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